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Prime Minister Chastanet chastised for comments made at press briefing

By MERRICK ANDREWS, St. Lucia News Online staff reporter/editor

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A statement by Prime Minister Allen Chastanet that many girls under 18 are having children, and with different men, following in the footsteps of their mothers and grandmothers, have not gone down well with a number of people on social media.

They have branded his statement as “racist”, “reckless”, and “disrespectful”.

Chastanet made the comments during Monday’s pre-Cabinet press briefing, where he reported on his recent attendance at the 19th Special Meeting of CARICOM Heads of government on security, held in Trinidad and Tobago.

The prime minister said the breakdown of values in the Saint Lucian society have contributed to crime and violence.

“We have young girls who are having children under the age of 18, and having children with different men, and that they are following the pattern of their mother and they are following the pattern of their grandmother,” he said. “And so the question is what we as citizens of this country are prepared to do in order to be able to stop that from happening. The next one is, is that young kids are not being occupied. And the fact is that values that were normal in this country have diminished significantly.”

Those comments have been branded as a “racist stereotype of black women,” according to gender and human rights advocate, Felicia Browne.

She was one of a large number of persons who took issue with the prime minister’s statement, on social media.

“The racist stereotype of black women. SMH. In this day and age,” Browne wrote.

“They are going to tell us that we do not comprehend English and took it out of context. Translate it in creole — same intent. No PM has ever disrespected its women the way you did. Not one!” Browne added.

One person defended the prime minister.

“He didn’t lie,” Danelle M. Reneau wrote.

Browne responded: “Of course not. They did not lie Danelle M. Reneau. They just continue to perpetuate the racist stereotype of black women as loose and promiscuous: while creating criminals in the process. Of course not, they did not remove the socio-economic barriers that have continued to plague our very society while only a small minority gains from their labor. Or the recent report of the impact of political corruption on the well being of any developing nation. Of course not, they did not include that many of these same young black women like yourself are being denied access to tertiary education while his family benefits from the cheap labor. Of course not, they will not include their white collar crimes which are rampant but they will not blame their mothers and foremothers for creating unethical individuals. But allow them to continue to humiliate our women and their foremothers who work very hard to contribute to our society.”

Reneau responded: “The average black woman is promiscuous and I think to act like that’s not true is intentionally dishonest. Majority of these criminals do come from single mother households. Single motherhood shouldn’t be praised. Children need both their parents. Fathers are just as important as mothers.”

She added: “Children who grow up without a father are 5 times more likely to live in poverty and commit crime; 9 times more likely to drop out of schools and 20 times more likely to end up in prison. If you can’t accept the facts, then that’s your personal problem.”

Dolores Williams-Bart was not impressed with Reneau’s comment, calling it “an alarming statement”.

“It saddens me that another black woman would hold and voice such opinions. Is there any statistical data that you have to support your opinion? I mean I am lost for words. I do not know what else to say to you. Shocking!” Williams-Bart said.

Adding to the debate, Sharn Joseph said: “What a false reckless statement the majority of Black women are promiscuous… Promiscuity is NOT based on race… My gosh… Where is your statistics…. Married white women are promiscuous.. What are you talking about.

Others pointed out that married men and women of all races are promiscuous.

“If teenage pregnancy is the issue, what has this government done to reduce the issue of teenage pregnancy? What has this government done to aid poor single mothers?” asked Trevlyn Bonaparte.

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48 comments

  1. Why is this lady calling the PM racist when he alluded to "Our Children" Did she forget that there are also Indians living in St.lucia, however small the numbers are. "Our black women" repeating the same rhetoric from black American women. He spoke the truth, about our society. Perhaps your outcry should be directed at the high numbers of teenagers getting pregnant, sleeping around having kids for different men, a cycle that has passed on from generations, Facts! Why do we prefer to delude ourselves, rather than admit the problems, why shift blame where it shouldn't. We live every problem for governments to sort out, we take no accountability for our actions. If we continue this pattern, it will be to our detriment. I can't get my head round, how this lady can say that the PM has degraded and shamed "our black women", when the shame and degradation you should be feeling, are the poor family structure, and the lack of moral values. Our priority seem to be one of material things. Young girls sleeping with men for money, clothes, mobile phones, weave so they could go out and "Slay". We copy everything we see abroad, even phrases that don't belong in a small island. ironically you are the racist one! That phrase "our black women" has no place here, as we do not have issues with racial divide. what we need to do is to instill discipline, self esteem pride and dignity in both our girls and boys. Such drivel coming out of the mouth of a so call educated woman only seeks to perpetuate the problems we face.

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    • Thank you!!! That's exactly what I've been saying. Making everything about race by saying us "poor black women". Too many copy cats trying to identify with black Americans by repeating what they're saying and doing, all while ignoring the truth because of the messenger's skin tone.

      Racism isn't an issue here for us in Saint Lucia. If want to experience so badly maybe they should live in America for a few months.

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    • The White Man's Burden
      Take up the White Man's burden–
      Send forth the best ye breed–
      Go bind your sons to exile
      To serve your captives' need;
      To wait in heavy harness
      On fluttered folk and wild–
      Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
      Half-devil and half-child.
      Rudyard Kipling

      By all means be coloured blind but “The White Man's Burden” mind-set still beats in the breasts of the descendants. This includes ‘blacks’ who regale in the privileges of colour hierarchy. Emancipate yourselves to dismantled racism if you are ever to create a cohesive nation

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  2. Prime Minister Chastanet comments have thrown the cats among the pigeons and he is sitting back watching the carnage tearing downing the fabric of the very society he claims to build! That is what you get when you give the leadership of the country to a business man with his crest of classism intact. He is showing that he cannot transform into a statesman that can embrace all his people, the poor, dispossessed, marginalized and vulnerable. He is making them the problem of their demise: their poverty, lack of education, lack of skills, unemployment, homelessness and the source of their victimization. He is creating intolerance in those who are more secure and fortunate against the less fortunate. Why has he gone to the IMF, plunging the country into further debt? It is becoming clear, that it is not to improve the social and economic lot of the poor. If you want to change behaviour you do not punch a person in the mouth first and proceed to mop up the blood on the pretext of concern and caring.

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  3. Sometimes the truth hurts. But we need to learn to call a spade a spade. The PM was absolutely correct with his views on some of our girls. That is the absolute trut. Some of us pretend that Saint Lucia is what happens in our fancy homes. But there is a larger part of Saint Lucia where the homes are not as fancy, where the kids have little to eat, where they share one bedroom with their parents, where some of those parents encourage those daughters to have men at an early age as a means of assisting the family. Yes, this is the really in some of our homes and neighborhoods. Yes I was raised in one of them. So for those of us from Mars, face the reality for this sadly is the situation in parts of sweet Saint Lucia where many of those very girls get their first sexual encounter from a family member as early as 6 or 8 years when they should be playing and being kids. Ask the police about their daily receipt of reports of sexual abuse against our young kids. Yes this is sweet Saint Lucia one that the PM is very familiar with. My concern however, is how he betters that situation for those kids.

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  4. It seems to me that when it comes to racism, most lucians are repeating the talking points of black Americans who face true racism on a daily basis. Just because it came from a white man's mouth doesn't make it any less true. Maybe Chastnet didn't sugarcoat it like they would've preferred, but he is right, it is a problem. The truth will still be the truth no matter who said it. It could come from the mouth of the most deplorable person and guess what, it will be the truth.

    Also the blame shouldn't fall only on they girls. Yes, they're the ones have the last say when it comes to pregnancy, but they need to place just as much focus on the teenage boys, and grown ass men, who impregenate these girls. Putting all the blames on the girls is why most of those males continue their bad habits. Too many people turning a blind eye and making excuses for them by calling the girls fast (even if true).

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  5. i agree. I think its ridiculous that certain secondary schools will not accept a pregnant student because they don't want to ruin their "reputation". Don't they realise that they're making things worse? I attented a certain secondary school and new of a girl who transferred to another school because of the reason listed above.

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  6. Myopic Saint Lucians are too damn smart for their own good. With such a creation of such a large pool of highly uneducated teenagers with no job skills, the future is not a rosy one for our youth. The murder rate for those in their teens and early 20s will contribute nearly 80% of the crimes on the island for a long time. Watch the ages of most of those becoming road kill in our streets.

    Those who criticize the man because of his race ... ARE the real racists. Not him.

    There was no evaluation of the implications of what the man was saying. Ignorant 15-year olds making babies will contine to face dire consequences as mothers and similarly, the children born to these people.

    Those who criticize the man because he was not born in Saint Lucia, are just shameless HYPOCRITES! The PM of Barbados who married a Saint Lucian female was not born in Barbados. The wife went on to take his place as am MP after her husband died.

    Compton was not born here.

    Yet, for years on end, the people allowed and adored him as Prime Minister. Mallet was not born here also. Yet, the population tolerated him as Minister of Trade. There was not even a whimper against any of those because of their country of origin. Not even today!

    Babies just keep on popping out other babies in Saint Lucia. They have no knowledge of what adult responsibility is. Neither will be the ti boloms they just keep on pushing out.

    If you love the crime rate and the mischief that our uneducated ti boloms are creating in our streets and ghettos, then ignore the message because you will never come to like who the messenger is.

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  7. Some of you people who agree with Chastanet just don't get it. As the head of a country you were suppose to see that this cycle can be broken . and not just talk trash about the st.lucians. Remember he is not a lucian and will never be one.So please get this man out of your system when the time comes.{ NO RESPECT}

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    • you that dont get it. you think chastanet can break the cycle? the cycle can be broken if they knew how to keep their legs closed no matter the situation and he was not talking trash about saint lucians but saying the truth about it

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      • YOU NEED TO HOLD YOUR ASS ! Maybe your mother should have HOLD HER LEGS. FIRST AND FORMOST (1) I found it be MIGHTY WHITE for Allen Chastanet to speak about of the social condition of our Black Women in this country. (2) WHAT EVER HE MAY THINK ABOUT OUR YOUTHS AND OUR BLACK WOMEN AS THE HEAD OF STATE YOU DO NOT GO OVER SEAS AND BASH YOUR CITINZENS FROM A FOREIGN SOIL. NO PM IN ST LUCIAS HISTORY HAS EVER DONE THIS [NONE]. NO PRESIDENT OF ANY COUNTRY DOES THIS NOT EVEN TRUMP. HIS WORDS WERE PREJUDICIAL, UNDIPLOMATIC, UNPATRIOTIC, UNSTATESMAN AND HE SHOULD APOLOGIGED TO THE STAINT LUCIAN PEOPLE BUT THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN HIS INHERITED CLASSISM WILL NOT ALLOW IT. THE ABSOLUTE SHAME OF IT ! I don't take back no chat my ego is not inflated by likes and dislikes ONLY COMMON SENSE.

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        • What's with all the focus on race? We live in a majority black country. Racial issues are the last of our problems in our homeland. Colourism? Sure. Alot of lucians are colour struck. I feel like most of y'all are repeating the statements made by black Americans when it comes to race. They face real racial issues on a daily basis.

          Not getting ahead in life, struggling or facing issues in Saint Lucia because of your race is a lie. Poverty is our main issue. Teenage pregnancy and broken families are some of those issues which creates a toxic cycle that affects the entire society.

          You make it seem like only person with lighter skin tones make it far. That's not the case here. So enough with the black woman talk. You make it seem like racism is such an issue in Saint Lucia when its not.

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  8. St .Lucians are to blame for electing an idiot to run their country. Plain and simple. Hope you elect guy idiot Joseph next time.

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    • I forgive you I think you are mentally challenge,but in the mean time you need to sit down and keep your azz quite. Oh by the way please do not forget to take your medication idiot.

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    • if you speaking of kenny then yes he is a idiot cause from time they put him in power all he doing is taxing people heavy and putting all kinds of tax on things, dont get me wrong taxing is good cause it helps the country but when you have it on alot of things including simple things just to survive you think these girls will ever leave their legs closed? no cause they cant aford it

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  9. Wow, very disturbing nonsense coming out of the mouth of a Caribbean leader. It's a vicious and obviously racist stereotype of black women from even plantation days. The fact that there are people, for purely political reasons, agreeing with Mr Chastanet is also scary. Do we have so little regard for Black women? Surely an apology is forthcoming.

    Maybe Donald Trump whispered that racist and sexist slur in the Prime Minister's ear during their get together.

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    • I don't see why you're mad. He didn't say "black women are.." He simply pointed out the issue which is "We have young girls who are having children under the age of 18, and having children with different men, and that they are following the pattern of their mother and they are following the pattern of their grandmother". It's cyclical. Just because we live in a majority black country and he's white doesn't make his statement racist. Y'all just parroting the talking points made by Black Americans who face true racism on a daily basis.

      We will never progress as a nation if we keep looking the other way or burying our heads in the sand when someone, not matter who they are, speaks the truth.

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  10. I hope all these pregnant young girls if they are old enough know where to put their X come next election. As usual Chastenet is devoid of solutions. Cutting back on social programmes yet talking about poverty, smh.

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    • yes and the right place to put that x is by chastanet cause there is something called constructive criticism. what these girls should be doing when they get old enough is to know when to keep their legs CLOSED you cant be poor and making mizi children and when they turn astray blame it on the government

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  11. I am not the least bit surprise some crap like this would come from this mans mouth NOT THE LEAST BIT and people would pump their fist in support of it. WHAT DOES ALLEN CHASTANET KNOWS ABOUT POOR PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY ?? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW. WHAT DOES HE KNOW ABOUT THE ILLS AND ILL WILLS OF BLACK WOMEN IN THIS COUNTRY ?? For a man who don't know what it is to be poor right thru HIS ADULT LIFE he a lot to say. He fly his mouth ONCE AGAIN [before thinking] now that the jackass is out the barn door it's time for check mate (1) What programs or program have you instituted since taking office to combat teenage pregnancy (2) How much funding has your administration allocated for social services for the poor if yes what are they (3) he claimed young people are not been "occupied" and this is contributing to the upsurge in violence and disorder so what programs or plans has you administration put in place to combat this uphill task since coming to office ? THE ANSWER IS NOT A DAM THING. They were THE UNTOCHABLES before he became PM that will not change now that he is the PM his inherited classism would not allow anything less so I am NOT THE LEAST BIT SUPRISE on what was said. Rewind back to the archives did anyone remember what Pierre said about him during his campaign run and everyone was in uproar because Pierre said it fast forward now to May 2019 the truth has reveled itself. Well ! Looking back at it now I guess I would have to concur to what many of you bloggers are saying THE THRUTH DOES HURT

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  12. It is so easy for people to call someone racist. You can be any color and be a racist not just a person of prominence talking about people on the Island. It's all about the breaking of the cycle

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  13. As much as I dislike the PM there is truth to his statement. Remember people, a teenage mom can become a grabdmother in their mid 20s if their daughter decided to follow their path. Now that the PM is aware of the issue the question is what is he going to do about it.

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    • If he makes the statement then he should be able to support it with statistics from Human Services. Its very unfortunate that our PM would think so but then able maybe he has inherited the mindset of his mother or grandmother....

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      • You must be an ass wearing blinkers in a donkey race. Ignorant as ass. Don't you know that in the 1970s, 50% of the population was under the age of 25? That is just 50% of the population being of child-bearing age.

        Over the years, we have been producing more and more children than the island can bear. The children are killing themselves in our neighbourhoods. It is now easier to see, now that Mr. Chastanet has raised the issue, that today, Saint Lucia is one hell of a baby factory.

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  14. so what? did chastanet lie on you all dirty habits? we black people need to get our act together. the violence in our community is rooted in our poor family structures.. i believe that.

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    • I agree. I don't see what he said wrong honestly. He didn't call out anyone specifically. He spoke in general in the context of a problem that that is deemed normal and perpetuated in society. The selective outrage by us St. Lucians. If you're a single mother and don't fall into the 'category' of persons Mr. Chastanet alluded too, then you shouldn't take offense cause he was not referring to you. We have to be honest with ourselves and face reality. Family forms the fabric of society. Dysfunctional families form the basis for a dysfunctional society and the social scientist have proven it. Facts!

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    • I agree. I don't see what he said wrong honestly. He didn't call out anyone specifically. He spoke in general in the context of a problem that that is deemed normal and perpetuated in society. The selective outrage by us St. Lucians. If you're a single mother and don't fall into the 'category' of persons Mr. Chastanet alluded too, then you shouldn't take offense cause he was not referring to you. We have to be honest with ourselves and face reality. Family forms the fabric of society. Dysfunctional families form the basis for a dysfunctional society and the social scientist have proven it. Facts!

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  15. THIS IS THE TRUTH.. WE NEED TOO STOP SUGAR COATING UGLINESS,, IT IS INDEED WHAT THE (PM) HAS VOICED, WE HAVE BEEN PLAGUED WITH THE VICIOUS CIRCLE OF POVERTY REASONS FOR THE ATTITUDE OF PROMISCUITY. WE SHOULD CALL IT BY NAME, AND WORK DELI GENTLY AS A NATION (NOT DIVIDED) TO ERADICATE THE CORE OF THE PROBLEM.

    PEACE AND LOVE, SHALOM.

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  16. THIS IS THE TRUTH.. WE NEED TOO STOP SUGAR COATING UGLINESS,, IT IS INDEED WHAT THE (PM) HAS VOICED, WE HAVE BEEN PLAGUED WITH THE VICIOUS CIRCLE OF POVERTY REASONS FOR THE ATTITUDE OF PROMISCUITY. WE SHOULD CALL IT BY NAME, AND WORK DELI GENTLY AS A NATION (NOT DIVIDED) TO ERADICATE THE CORE OF THE PROBLEM.

    PEACE AND LOVE, SHALOM.

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  17. So sad to see people support this racist stereotype uttered by our PM. We need to stop HATING OURSELVES there is already enough people hating us already.Teen pregnancy does not only happen to black people it affects white people, Asian , Hispanic and everyone else. But do you hear them other races denigrating themselves with such gusto? No! Teen pregnancy can be attributed to poverty it has nothing to do with race. So Mr. PM if you want to lower Teen Pregnancy lower the poverty levels in the country.

    Reference: https://wiki.ubc.ca/Causes_and_Effects_of_Teen_Pregnancy#Low_Socio-economic_Status

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    • well sad to say we black people have it worst and there is nothing racist and stereotyped about it. if most of us black people had any dignity we would not do such but most of it had started from poverty. in saint lucia mothers sending their young daughters to sleep with older men and we in society hiding it so not because is chastanet that said it for you and others to come and bash him cause he did not tell a lie. HE SAID THE TRUTH BUT YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH.

      Look at the first ubauldus issue. Wasnt she a little girl way below his age range? maybe she didnt get pregnant and yes she was going to school but the fact and the point is these young girls are putting themselves into these situations with older men and it is HAPPENING. and is not the pm that have to lower poverty levels it is each and everyone of us in our daily lives

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  18. Negros have a problem with being held accountable for their actions and also being called out for their poor behaviours. The PM is right. Bad mother's and broken families are to blame for most of our social ills. "Racist"?? Lol if that's racist to say then there is nothing wrong with racism here. Cuz in this society were women drink like men and fuck like dogs, there is bound to be problems. Time to be held accountable black women. Stop letting side purse carrying, scooter riding worthless niggers have access to your body.

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  19. I's about time some one tell us like it is. I know the truth hurt but deal with it.

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  20. So were comments and songs by local caylpsonians "De Invader, De Ashanti, disrespectful to black teenage single mothers? When we did social studies in secondary school we examined the social aspects of teenage pregnancy and poverty and how it was a result of a cycle of mothers being too young in the fist place. I wonder if those teachers we being disrespectful. And guess what? My teacher was female.

    Isn't teenage pregnancy a problem?

    Isn't it cyclical?

    So what crap Felicia Brown talking?

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  21. The PM is not my favorite person, but he did not lie. It is the truth, an inconvenient truth perhaps, but the truth nonetheless.

    If you observe the teenagers who are having babies, the MAJORITY of them have a history of this in their family history down the line. Unfortunately, the girls/women/mothers are the ones with the bellies and the babies, so they are the ones who are blamed because of the "visuals", while the males are just as guilty.

    Anyway, children - especially those who are in situations where their parents cannot do better or teach them better - need to be exposed to things other than what they see as the norm in their homes and communities. Girls need to understand that having sex with the boys on the block is not cool. Boys need to understand that being on the block selling weed or committing petty crimes is not cool. So this is something that has to be tackled on a national level i believe, as we know it will not come from their homes.

    People like to hide behind "racism" too much sometimes when the truth is too harsh for them.

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  22. You see rather than acknowledging that it is a fact, some people will take it out of context to make it seem that it is not true, when it is ! Hence this pattern of behavior will continue to exacerbate. People generally don't like to hear the truth, hence they continue to behave a certain way and think it is acceptable and they do not think of the consequences. This is a very serious situation ! If you want to know how serious it is, those who took offence to it, should go around the country particularly in V/fort to see how bad it is.

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    • Follow a few years of year graduation end. How many of our girls are not able to graduate due to pregnancy?

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      • i agree. I think its ridiculous that certain secondary schools will not accept a pregnant student because they don't want to ruin their "reputation". Don't they realise that they're making things worse? I attented a certain secondary school and new of a girl who transferred to another school because of the reason listed above.

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  23. a bunch of flipping crap but did he lie? yall know its true and when the truth is told yall want to get vex. maybe he should not have said it the way he said it but chastanet didnt lie. so much jamets st lucia have.
    and these are the same jamets that will dislike my comment cause it putting them out inthe open exposed in the spot light. like i does always say people will rather accept what is wrong that what is right.

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  24. I am so happy for that statement made by Chastanet. Chastanet referred to young women as Jamet and Salop . This is a shame, still you all will support him. So isn't he correct? Let me hear from the 43%

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    • He need all the support he can get because he speak the truth deal with it.Some one had to tell it like it is.

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  25. “Children who grow up without a father are 5 times more likely to live in poverty and commit crime; 9 times more likely to drop out of schools and 20 times more likely to end up in prison. If you can’t accept the facts, then that’s your personal problem.”

    There will always be inconvenient facts in life, how we chose to deal with them does reveal a lot about one's mental maturity and courage. Some will choose to angrily deny them, others choose to bury their heads in the sand. What I think would be the best way forward is to look at the statistics accept that there may be a problem here and deal with it by coming up with practical solutions.
    That said however it's a different matter to point to does fact from a position of power whilst offering or implementing no solutions. From my standpoint of all crime is connected. One cannot point out these facts whilst tolerating corruption and other white-collar crime in the upper levels of society. This would make one look like a hypocrite or given what Chastanet has uttered in the past an outright racist.

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  26. You have to remember chastenet is a white man he is repeating what the typical type of oerson following the saying from france and prince william said said to cut down on the black populationbecause the white population is decreasing .he wants the island to be all white .has he tried to bring any black own business here . His dad is typical of preventing black own business ont the island .there is more to say blacks put your heads together all he care is his race .WHITE

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    • Is Chastanet a white man?

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    • You sir have lots of anger inside of you. A behaviour that you have learned from your mother. It's time you let go of this anger and welcome god into your heart. Stop behaving like a woman

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    • You've never seen high increases in child birth from our girls on the island on his false accusations? Not too many uneducated, not meeting graduation day? Yes we at the schools can hide it so they do reach it but not with a bump underneath their hounds. It's the truth mate.

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  27. Imagine that! I am not surprised at these ignorant comments. I suspect Reneau has had one man her entire life and now he is horning her with some sexy black chick and she is in her feelings about it so she comments with her zero statistics and ignorance hoping others facing the same plight will perhaps agree as misery loves company...Just Saying.

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