Verification of prisoner’s identity a challenge for Police Force

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Verification of prisoner’s identity a challenge for Police Force
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Cases of prisoners providing false identities have been a norm for the Royal St. Lucia Police Force (RSLPF), Assistant Public Relations Officer Tamara Charles-Laure has admitted.

Charles-Laure comment comes in light of the recent case involving a prisoner, Kevin Alphonse, who had escaped lawful custody from the Richfond Police Station on September 27.

Upon further investigations, following his escape, it was realised that his real name is Davidson Alfred.

The RSLPF public relations official told St Lucia News Online (SNO) in an interview today that the police force have come across a number of prisoners, who provided the police with incorrect names over the years.

“A lot of people have done that. I know of a lot of persons we have charged with the wrong name on their case files and it’s only in the court the magistrate would realise that the person had given a wrong name, especially when it’s a repeat offender,” she explained.

Charles-Laure said that upon arrest, if provided with a National Identification Card (ID) then the correct identity would be established, but in other cases the prisoners are taken at face value.

“When you get to the police station a search is done and you ask them for an ID card. Some of them would give you one and you would see the proper name. Some would say they don’t have an ID card. You have no reason to doubt the person’s name,” she added.

The verification of a prisoner’s identity, she noted, is usually done in the court. “We don’t do a second verification. If we have already asked you for an ID card then your name would already be there and if you don’t and have given your name, then I am believing that is your name.”

The police official said it has been a challenge to verify prisoners’ identities and the police force have in the past relied on family members to verify the true name of these prisoners.

Charles-Laure explained that the manner in which the Force collects information is standard protocol and is used by all police stations island-wide.

“I worked for CID for a while and that is how we did it there,” she told SNO.

If an incorrect name of a prisoner is given and this is corrected, then police records will usually reflect those changes.

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30 COMMENTS

  1. WN THEY R ARRESTED N HAVE NO ID.THE POLICE FORCE SHOULD MAKE IT THEIR DUTY TO HELP THEM FIND ONE.THESE R NEW MEASURES THEY SHOULD PUT IN PLACE.

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  2. One thing for is legislators in this country doesn't want the justice system to work....Y, because they or their relatives break more laws, so they leave loop holes, keep the force backward so it operate like
    its1909, where are the radar guns...people dying on our roads, where are the breathalyzers for drunk drivers,,,,,,,,people u honestly believe those thinks will be implemented when ministers of government and other officials operate rum shops, drive drunk etc etc, really that won't happen. The malaway in this country is 4ked.

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  3. The problem is not the Police, the problem is with the Government, and the minister responsible for law and order to implement the data base, in all the Police stations.
    Take that little Hell hole Police station at Rodney Bay the station is surrounded by pools of stagnant water,if the Government can't dump two lorry load of quarry waste around the Police station then what chance is there of a data base ?

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  4. Going off topic here... but I am the only one who feels like cuffing mate in the mouth? I get upset every time I see his face on my screen.

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  5. actually once you are arrested and charged your fingerprints and pictures are taken.how ever i am not sure if that is the procedure at every station. that is done at the vieux fort police station for certain. its probably a case of the smaller stations not having the necessary equipment/technology to deal with a problem like that.....or the lack of a centralized information system database

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  6. AND WHERE WOULD U PUT THEM WHEN THE PRISON FULL ALREADY.WHEN U GIVE A FURTHER SENTENCE OF 5 YEARS.

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  7. Absolute nonsense. Every prisoner should have a biometrics file with picture, fingerprints and all relevant data. That would make any identification easy

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  8. Everyone has an ID card which finger prints and photo was taken when issued , simply give the police force acess to that data bank simple solution !

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  9. It begs the question of why do we not move with the OECS identity card they were talking about last year where they fingerprint people. All they have to do is to scan these guys prints against the national database...and if no match then if there is an agreement amongst the other islands with the same card (MPID I think it was called), then run the prints against those databases. That way we can catch all those "foreign" "nameless" criminals that roaming our streets.

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  10. Why has the govt not invested in a system where fingerprints are electrically generated with background information ??? They borrow money from the world bank to do everything else but ... The obvious god bless slu

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  11. You see all this talk about how they ready to host

    OECS NATIONALS !!

    Can't even take care of your own problems !!

    That's why it's gonna get worst before it get better !!

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  12. We can't blame them completely. If the person does not have ID, you take whatever name given. Then as the investigation continues you find out the real name. But, the times when it has to go to a magistrate months later and then you find out the real name, this is incompetence. They need more sophisticated technology and educated technical officers in RSLPF. There are already a lot of educated officers on the force, the Commissioner should really look into changes in protocol of remanding persons charged with an offense.

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  13. WHY, WHY, WHY !! BROKEN SYSTEM WITH NO SIGN OF REPAIR !!

    The government should be ashamed to have this happening in the place.

    I bet you : Trinidad, Jamaica, Martinique, Barbados have their system set up !! Even Antigua have their system set up !!

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  14. THESE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES SO WEAK IN THE COUNTRY YOU WONDER WHAT THESE GUYS DOING WITH TAX PAYERS MONEY !!

    All the guys need is a DATABASE to collect information and share information across agencies !! SIMPLE AND EASY !!

    Someone lost or don't have an ID?

    BOOM !! you have your database set up !!

    No long line, No come back tomorrow business.

    Information right there at your finger tips.

    THAT'S NOT SUPPOSE TO BE A PROBLEM FOR ANY GOVERNMENT.

    But hey this is St.Lucia

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    • in total agreement. all some of them police know is abuse of power. how comes when you call them with information on crimes and criminals they know how to squeal and say who gave them the info, yet the cant come up with proper id and names of know criminals. choops tan

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  15. MY GOODNESS THIS COUNTRY IS STUCK IN TIME !!

    SIMPLE, PROCEDURES THESE GUYS CAN'T IMPLEMENT.

    WAKE UP !! IT'S 2014 PEOPLE !!

    THERE MORE MONTHS 2015 !!

    No Cameras to monitor prisoners !!
    Hospital ain't got enough beds !!
    Ain't got paper to print IDs !!

    The list goes on and on

    WOW THIS IS BEYOND THIRD WORLD.

    LUCIANS LIVING ON ANOTHER PLANET !!

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  16. once you have evidence that someone has given you a false name, the penalty should be ten years hard labour!!
    bet you they can't fool the people at N.I.C

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  17. In the USA, you can't walk without a form of ID or you can even get charged for this. Why not ensure all 18+ possess and ID to avoid this?

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  18. It should be made law that everyone 18 yrs and over have an ID in his/her posession at all times. If apprehended by the police and does not have one appropriate action should be taken

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  19. Just like I said it's ok 4 this criminal's face 2b posted but not the molester double takes ever on news wow no wonder d less fortunate have 2 suck up 2d fortunate 2 get work to survive or choose crime coz once u can afford who cares if someone else don't but in god we trust were fair is concern wooow tic toc

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  20. then pass a law that everybody should carry ID with them,so you would not have that problem,its also good for if someone is being transported to the hospital in an emergency and cant talk then you would know they identity.

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    • it is an offense not to have your national id on your person my dear. but most of the dumb cops dont even know that

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  21. There should be an information bank on all offenders.There is no way the police should have that problem with repeat offenders.A photo and finger prints should be in the system.We are in 2014.

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    • i was thinking just the same, but i wonder if the outer stations have the capacity/equipment to take the prints and if they have access to that database. but these are some of the things i would prefer to see my tax be spent on instead of some of the shit these politicians give priority

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