UWP MP says he will not be pushed around by House Speaker

UWP MP says he will not be pushed around by House Speaker
Guy Joseph holding up a copy of the Standing Orders of Parliament in this hand.

Opposition parliamentarian Guy Joseph has accused House Speaker Peter Foster of acting like a politician yesterday, while stating that Foster was unable to point to any Standing Orders that could bar him from speaking.

Joseph was referring to the confrontation between himself and Foster over his questions about the Laborie Banse Road project, for which he (Joseph) claims is filled with discrepancies.

The Castries South East MP told a media conference today (July 8) that he feels that the speaker was the one who was “out of order” and was angered by his questioning.

“I saw when I was speaking, the speaker was going through the Standing Orders, but apparently he got nothing to interrupt me, so he decided to put on his hat as a lawyer and start interpreting law for me,” he added.

Joseph said the project is highly questionable and noted that he was just trying to establish whether the signatories of the contract, Alison Gajadhar and Rayneau Gajadhar, have any relation.

Alison Gajadhar is the permanent secretary in the Ministry of Infrastructure, while Rayneau Gajadhar is the contractor for which the project was awarded to by the government.

“Why is that such a sensitive matter? Why is the speaker so sensitive about this whole matter? I don’t care what the speaker’s relationships with persons are… when I come to transact business in the parliament of Saint Lucia it is not my personal business I am coming to discuss,” he added.

Joseph said he believes he should have been allowed to ask more questions and get a reasonable response. The opposition MP said the government could have responded, but instead the speaker opted to offer some explanation.

He noted that the $31 million project only has one page of bill of quantities, stating that it is ridiculous, and that the money for this project must be properly accounted for.

“I will stand to defend the rights of the people of Saint Lucia, because when I stand in Parliament to speak, I represent the second largest constituency in Saint Lucia and I have a right to speak. So the speaker must know his place and if anybody deserves an apology is me,” he asserted.

Joseph said he was not disrespectful to the speaker, but instead advised him that if he wants to join the debates he should become a politician, but if he wants to be speaker he has to be fair and unbiased.

“When I try to bring a point, he said we are not debating things of the past. But every time the government goes and digs up something that happened 20 years ago the speaker allows it,” Joseph complained.

He continued: “You think I am going to continue to go to Parliament and be pushed around by the speaker who was not elected by anyone in Saint Lucia, other than by the parliamentarians on the government side? I will not allow this to happen to me. I can say to the speaker, if he is going to engage me in debate in the house again, he can be rest assured the same thing will happen.”

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  1. St Lucians really stupid to support this Guy Joseph person. What does who is whose baby father have to do with what happened yesterday. Why don't you admit that a former minister is unable to interprete contracts which he himself should have been familiar with. Alison did not sign the contract in question. St Lucians really foolish. Remember this is the same guy who made $19 million disappear from the treasury

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  2. Don't be afraid, Guy! You have a huge wall of support. With all the discussion that is taking place on bullying, what example are Kenny and his a*rs lickers portraying to the youth? When the youth model that same behavior, we complain. Boy, I tell you, that government is a CURSE on Lucia. John Compton warned Lucians! Here you have it.

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  3. St. Lucia is a messss. When selecting speakers of the house their moral integrity should be delved into and if there are any large scandals this person cannot sit as speaker. Pet...and you know who for years allegdely carried out a sordid affair. LYING and PASSING off a child as another mans.

    It is not the cheating that is questionable and weighty but the MANIPULATION of a man and family into believing a child was his. I am sorry such persons are not trustworthy and should not hold this office.

    So many US politicians have had to resign or decide not to contest the next round of elections because of personal issues which bring into question their morality. Peter is a cool guy but he should have never held this position.

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  4. Guy needs to seek real professional advice. Guy is right but he allowed Alison Jean to fool him last night on HBI. Directly from FIDIC. COMMENCEMENT DATE MEANS THE DATE SPECIFIED IN SUB CLAUSE 8.1 (COMMENCEMENT OF WORKS). sub Clause 8.1 THE ENGINEER SHALL GIVE THE CONTRACTOR NOT LESS THAN 7 DAYS NOTICE OF THE COMMENCEMENT DATE. THE CONTRACTOR SHALL COMMENCE THE DESIGN AND EXECUTION OF THE WORKS AS SOON AS IS REASONABLE PRACTICAL AFTER THE COMMENCEMENT DATE AND SHALL PROCEED WITH THE WORKS WITH DUE EXPEDITION AND WITHOUT DELAY. In other words the commencement date is when the design or works begin NOT when it is finished as Alison Jean tried to explain. There is only one definition for Commencement Date in FIDIC.

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  5. Ganjada "Speaker deal with the matter cuz da man go expose me deh, I doe care how stupid u look my money in your pocket already, you're my poodle now."
    Ganjada2" AA babes how he mentioning my name, shut him up my class cannot b tarnished, or else doe come by me again"
    Da Boss" hmph snaps finger, gives the speaker the look"
    JP baffled"a wah is dis how I eh check dat when d contract sign"
    #freestlucia

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  6. And a hero has emerged, continue to fight the good fight, expose them all, ganjada is next in line to buy stlucia cuz no more foreign investment, just sad to see we giving him our money to buy us, need more people to stand up like this against the evils of this cruel govt,

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  7. Note that the Permanent Sec had a totally different explanation on Hot Button Issue to that offered by Peter Foster in the House. So we have 3 interpretations of the Contract. Guess what? The speaker is wrong and the Permanent Secretary is neither here nor there. She kept on refering to the yellow book where "period of commencement" had two different meanings. I really want to see where contracts were ever written in that exact format. Did that start when this admin came to office? If so why did they deviate from the original format? Was it to sneak a chicky punch under the belts of St. Lucians? The whole idea of writing a contract is for an understanding between party A and B. You cannot have a contract which is ambiguous by nature. It only leaves room for different interpretations by the by the party seeking to create mischief. What if the contract decides after completing the work that he would adhere strictly to the literal meaning of the contract. Would Labour & Co. take him to court on behalf of the citizenry? Wouldn't that then be another expense on the public purse. Who do you all really think you all fooling?

    Good that you pointed this one out Guy cause i have a feeling that it will come back to haunt us.

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  8. YOU HAVE TO RESPECT THE SPEAKER....DEFENDING HIS BABY MAMA....REAL MEN DO REAL SHEETS....OF PAPER....CALLED PUBLIC WORKS CONTRACTS.....WITH BARELY ANYTHING WRITTEN ON THEM....THE ALLEGED FLEECING OF THE TREASURY, SO NIKKAS/injuns CAN GET ON THEIR HELICOPTER TO RUSH TO TAKE A PISS IN VIEW FORT IF THEY FEEL LIKE..

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  9. I happen to like Peter on a personal level. But Peter it seems like you were quite upset! I am quite sure that Dr Plummer was upset when the question constantly arose about his supposed childs paternity? The tough questions need to be answered peter? Reneau is benefiting profusely on the tax dollar and we must be quiet? In the last few years Reneau has risen so much you cannot drive on that road and not see one of his company vehicles.

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  10. Remember when a little lady named sarah flooded the house with her christian take on the murdering of children by the now sitting government, and then these ministers stood up and bludgeoned poor sarah, while the entire country was watching, and these ministers with their supersayan public relations machinery and bravado thought that they could not only get away with it, but had obviously won! They had otherwise anti abortion supporters suddenly ready to reap out fetuses from probably raped young girls.....even the adventist ti porport aka ninja turtle with noncoalpress needing hair was in support of abortion....ready to rip an embryo out herself if she had to........Oh the great sarah....small things unforseen have brought down larger empires...Guy just exposed the nature of public procurement on this rock of young murdering youths....on this rock of $20 barbecued whole legs....on this rock of $10 prostitutes......He did not plan it! it was all inadvertent, but the little foolish coolie from upper forestier....that greasy bus driver who mispronounces words and wears oversized suits worst than robert lewis does, might just have exposed a speaker of the house, his baby mama magna permanent secretary, and a corrupt awarding of public contracts to another coolies with a helicopter....lololololol.....will this cause house debates to be viewed like its a passa passa video? or like a video of young school girls....or like ummmm......when richard frederick used to actually make sense?! I certainly has! The stupid PR machinery of the laba gang were quick to send out guyisaignorantcoolie memes all over facebook....not understanding that theyre making a martyr of a freaking bus driver/ apple farm owning local genius.....carry on then!

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  11. GUY'S PART:guy was unprofessional I saw according to the speaker comply with the rules n regulations of the house.

    SPEAKER'S PART:And The speaker had to understand guy was dealing with what he had on paper.. If d document was incorrect it needed to be refuted by those who offered the contract.

    SLP: why stay quiet when Guy is giving you'll a taste of you'll medicine.

    LUCIANS: Let's not be quick to take sides the big boys are playing on their play ground.they are politicians!

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  12. All questions must be answered in our House regardless of which side it's coming from. The government had the opportunity to question the distribution and expenditure of the Taiwanese millions.

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  13. Chewps some as simple a defects liability guy misinterpreting? Anyone who build a house and have a lawyer explain the contract will tell u guy eh understand de ting. I eh like Kenny, mate is a ole tiff. But when u wrong I go tell u you wrong. And guy...papa u wrong dis time.

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  14. It is clear that bullying and combative behaviour is the trait of the SLP and their followers! You see it on social media platforms, in the behaviour of the press secretary to the PM and now in the house by the speaker supported by Kenny and his GANG! And we wonder why gang warfare is so prevalent in this country! Why not? We have a GANG in power!

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  15. The Government has lost its collective mind. They are being told what they want to hear by their hacks. St. Lucia is broken. Sick people are dying. Children are hungry yet all contracts go to one person and his wealth is becoming am embarrassment to fairness. Apparently there is millions to be made on Capital projects in this small island. The people are fed up and as unlikely as it could ever seem, Guy from Forestiere has become the people's heroic advocate in this David versus Goliath fight.

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  16. Guy lacks the speaking skills and intelligence of Kenny but he make speopl like me think. From day 1 I find Peter is always out of place, so blatantly one sided. BTW people he Peter is the father of the lady in question children, 1 of them and her man so he heard her name and tripped.

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  17. The Speaker needed to excuse himself and hand over to his Deputy. This was too close to him and his personal business. Instead he attacks Guy for asking pertinent questions on behalf of the taxpayers of St.Lucia.

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  18. When some1 asks question we try to shut them up, whilst the rich get richer and poor getting it worse. Open your eyes LUCIA them politicians running our country to the ground. when we will want to open it will be too late.

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  19. Guy is you are reading this i want you to know that you have our full support. The speaker of the house is a bully and he is the one who was out of order. He most time does not act as a moderator, but as a politician. Looks like he is in that seat to promote the agenda of the slp and to keep us lucians in darkness. All contracts are awarded to cajadah, now i know why cause his family is p.s. so is only one set of coolie's suppose to eat in st. lucia. I am voting UWP. T kwa ah chou kenny.

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  20. Guy good for himself yes. the speaker know if he did not put up a big show and defend the works contact it would ah be no supper and dessert for him last night

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  21. wow lots of support for guy.
    after watching the whole episode i must say i agree with guy.....only on this one.Is it not up to the government to make the statement that the house speaker was making??.there is no need of the government at these debates if the speaker is going to speak on and defend the government...really what did guy say that was out of order.
    lol lucian politics

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  22. Guy continue to fight for us. It seems the speaker's head is so big he can wear many hats at once. He really needs to know his damn place when he is sitting on that particular chair. If he has too many hats to wear he can shove the rest up his ask me no questions you will hear no lies.

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  23. I watched the unedited video. The man is going in circles. He should ask a direct question. Is Alison Gajadhar and Rayneau Gajadhar, have any relation? Period. Someone would need to answer Yes or No to that question.

    He does have every right to ask questions about costs. Unfortunately, because of his poor speaking skills, he was coolly and methodically boxed in...unable to the answer the question, "what is your point?" Needless to say, he got frustrated and lashed out. This gave the speaker an opportunity to exercise the rules.

    Kids, please go to school.

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  24. Mr. Joseph if you read this then know that you were spot on regarding the liability. It must be from partial (usually 90+% according to case law) or at completion and for at least 12 months after. The speaker (yes I used a lower case 's') was totally wrong with his lecture on Contract law. As for the seeming conflict of interest, it was for the executive side to simply say that there is no relation between the two signatories.
    As for the estimates, 1/2 a page! Really! What the executive is doing to SLU is heartbreaking, and guess what, they have lots of 'educated' people to shout down any dissenter. Be encouraged that MLK, Nelson Mandela and many other fighters were shouted down and now history has proven that they were correct all along.

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