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SLP gov’t offered to house 20 prisoners from hurricane-ravaged Grenada in 2004: UnitedPac

By UnitedPac

Bordelais Correctional Facility

(PRESS RELEASE) – Many St Lucians and sadly, one or two media professionals have taken issue with a decision by the UWP Administration to offer to house three (3) prisoners from the hurricane ravaged BVI. Clearly, we continue to suffer from selective amnesia.

Was it not the Dr. Kenny Anthony Administration in 2004 which offered to house over 20 prisoners from a hurricane ravaged Grenada?

Where were the current voices to oppose it then? As we would recall, many praised Dr. Kenny Anthony for his generous gesture.

Now before you give a sad argument about a comparison of the population of Bordelais in 2004 as opposed to 2017, might I remind you that the current PM, Mr. Allen Chastanet, only offered to house 3 prisoners from an acceptance of up to 50, should the BVI choose.

Let’s not forget that Grenada also rescued us from a dire need to house our prisoners after fire had damaged parts of the Castries Prison while Bordelais was being constructed.

Clearly, we choose to remember what we want simply because we do not like the current prime minister. Nothing he does will ever satisfy us. Had he offered to take in the homeless, we would complain and say that he should use his hotel. Had he offered to take in students, we would complain and say that he is adding an extra burden on the economy of the country. Will anything he does be ever enough? I really don’t think so. For now, I will just encourage him to remain human and do the best he can, while his critics continue to find their humanity, if they ever do find it that is.

Again, in case you forget, please read the press statement issued by Earl Bousquet from the Office of the Prime Minister on September 23rd, 2004.

http://archive.stlucia.gov.lc/pr2004/september/grenadian_prisoners_for_bordelais.htm

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25 comments

  1. we cannot compare 2004 to 2017. anyone who chooses to do so is unwise. the way things were in 2004 is totally different from how it is right now. our prisons are now getting over crowded. we have more on the street. we need space to put our own, and we cant afford to house 50.

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  2. we cannot compare 2004 to 2017. we have more crimes rising , our prisons are not so much empty as they used to be. the world is not how it used to be. so comparing it to the past is very ridiculous as we no longer live in these times

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  3. Many may think that the government was justifying its position by pointing to the occasion where the previous administration sent our prisoners to Grenada. However, that may not be and they may have only been alluding to the point out that it is quite normal since we are part of a single space and such cooperation is mandated under their treaty. All Treaties are based on reciprocity. They may have also been illustrating that if you believe that Kenny could do no wrong and the whole concept of accepting prisoners was a bad thing, then here i am renegotiating the deal.

    By the way did you know that Treaties are superior legislation which supersede the laws of individual territories? That is why there was Brexit, because Britain by its own laws could not determine who could enter its own borders. EU law regulated that, so they had to remove themselves under the EU treaty. Another example closer to home was a case (Myrie) where a Jamaican was denied entry into Barbados. The Caricom Treaty had established freedom of movement but the Barbados Immigration department had the power under local laws to either accept or refuse the person, so they denied her entry. Myrie won simply because agreements under the Treaty were superior to the laws of the land. With all this said the issue of reciprocity is fundamental and i don't think that the PM could have dodged this one.

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  4. I hope if another hurricane hits us as hard as that country, we will be forced to change our tune on the load of ignorance being highlighted here. Wow!

    Are fellow Saint Lucians still this ignorant? Incredible.

    Jailbirds fled over there today. Tomorrow may well be our turn. And yes. We have many more dangerous criminals housed here today than in the past. Therefore, do you believe that facing a similar situation we would not need external assistance more than just food, water or galvanized sheets?

    We have so many damn ignoramuses and intellectual pigmies, posing as intelligent human beings, that they are sinking this darn country almost every time they flap their jaws. So many fools.

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  5. We for get we took all the horses and donkeys from monseratt

    Then the song was made, so much jack ass around but they bringing more donkey in town...

    Well same thing happening...

    Horses, horses track, donkeys, jack ass, convicts, all one happy family

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  6. We for get we took all the horses and donkeys from monseratt

    Then the song was made, so much jack ass around but they bringing more donkey in town...

    Well same thing happening...

    Horses, horses track, donkeys, jack ass, convicts, all one happy family

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  7. 2004 had 32 murders in total while 2017 has 37 murders so far and it's only September. So the crime situation is very different

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    • Party in power has nothing to do with the number of crime on the island. Stop allowing politician to think for us.
      We need to stop thinking so negatively and look at life on a positive side always. We have to offer a helping hand at all cost when a brother needs help. Lots of St. Lucians think too selfishly;... and you wonder why we have so much crime in St. Lucia now, it is because of our selfish thoughts. Put God in all we do and we will see everything in a different light.

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    • It is not only murders that equals crime. Murderers may well be targeting each other, so does that affect the community more than innocent people being robbed? Our political agendas always makes us see a problem myopically. My prediction is that murders will continue to increase and we will have no answer and the same will go for the rest of the Caribbean. As long as development continues the region will be rife with greedy and unproductive people. Unless this culture of looking at people's possessions instead of people themselves then murders will continue to escalate. The problem will eventually even out when we become a mature nation, adept at nurturing our children properly and supported by a society which is well structured and doesn't operate by bribery.

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    • And you point is?

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  8. Monkey see monkey do

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    • Exactly Paula. UnitedPac is pathetic. So because the SLP did it it's ok to continue the trend. So juvenile. I thought the UWP was for better governance not following the same path as the SLP

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  9. This government is a replica of the previous government in that they do the same things they did , thriving on their initiatives , taking credit for the positives and stupid enough to reveal the synonymity of their negative attributes .

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    • How is helping a brother country in a major catastophe a negative attribute?very insensitive even at the ravaging moment...heartless u are!or u just wouldn't cease at any opportunity to criticize the PM.

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    • Do you really think that housing 3 prisoners from a "wasted" neighbor at our prisons is something stupid? If you think so, i don't think you understand the dynamics of governance or diplomacy. The concept is based on reciprocity, "you scratch my back then i will scratch yours." Therefore we do not have a choice in the matter because tomorrow we may very well require a total evacuation ourselves, so who do you think will have to accept us? It is even more glaring that we do not have a choice if we send ours to Grenada first. So you don't expect to return the favor? The idea of putting St. Lucia first cannot coexist with the idea of cooperation and the operation of treaties. Ask that to Donald Trump who has found it extremely difficult to initiate his "America First" policy. So imagine a poor country such as ours that rely on aid. Think before making stupid comments.

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  10. Labour was stupid enough to ask for 20 so .Chastenet has to take 50+ and lend proof to the view that he is more than twice as stupid ?Seriously, this man brings a new meaning to stupidity and foolishness and more so the hired hand who are bent on pushing STUPIDITY..

    Someone please remind Chastenet and his cohorts that he came in on a mandate for change and he should stop running the country in #dottishMode

    Crime has go to the roof, unemployment remain high, country hopping is a priority. Money and resources in the hands of foreigners are his priority. It is clear that he is clueless......Alas!!! daddy's money can't buy brains

    #YoFoo #ThingsFallApart #SaintLuciaIsNotYourHarlot #MakeSaintLuciSafeAgain

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  11. Help me, please. I thought we put in place a government to run the country and to implement innovative ideas. If that is so, why is the current government justifying all its actions on the basis that the previous government did it.

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    • Thank you well said. Up to now they can't govern.

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    • They were not justifying and its you making your assumption that it was justification. They were only alluding to the point that it is quite normal since we are part of a single space and such cooperation is mandated under their treaty. They are also illustrating that if you believe that Kenny could do no wrong and the whole concept of accepting prisoners was a bad thing, then here i am renegotiating the deal. By the way did you know that Treaties are superior legislation which supersede the laws of individual territories? That is why there was Brexit, because Britain by its own laws could not determine who could enter its own borders. EU law regulated that, so they had to remove themselves under the EU treaty. Another example closer to home was a case (Myrie) where a Jamaican was denied entry into Barbados. The Caricom Treaty had established freedom of movement but the Barbados Immigration department had the power under local laws to either accept or refuse the person, so they denied her entry. Myrie won simply because agreements under the Treaty were superior to the laws of the land.

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      • Then they should have been intelligent enough to make just the first two sentences in your statement. whether you like it or not the response was stupid. and your third sentence prove that you had to inject some of the stupidity.

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  12. So sad for sweet st.lucia. It's like revenge porn . 4rk United pack ( playing tit for tat) What does 2004 hurricane have to do with 2017 hurricane IRMA ? Same way hermingild saying he's not responsible for crimes which happened under SLP . Bull crap !! Same way chastnet so called ORANGE REVOLUTION has prices March, how about today ? Why can't we all just move forward together to better our sweet st.lucia.

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    • Answer : They don't have any vision or agendas. What's is their crime fighting initiatives help me please anybody? What is in their economic portfolio to stimulate and provide sustainable economic growth for the country other than to try and turn every St Lucian into Molly Maids ? What's is their vision for education ? What's their economic agenda for St Lucians at the bottom of the scale (we already know what they have planned for those at the top) Allen Chastanet is a mimic of Donald Trump. I don't know why these hoteliers believe running a country is just like running their hotels. Butch Stewart does not get in politics, he leave the politics for the politicians he sticks to what he knows and do best building and running hotels.

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  13. Was the country that broke? You are about to demolish the st judes hospital ..I gather that the prisoners will be air lifted to martinique for medical assistance if the need arise. Imagine that it's better to be an inmate than a mate..only in Lucia.

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  14. Seriously are we going to compare the population in the prison in 2004 to 2017?

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