Police refute advocate’s claims

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Police refute advocate’s claims
Mary Francis
Mary Francis

The police today refuted claims by human rights advocate Mary Francis that the office of the commissioner has ignored her request for information on the fatal shooting of 31-year-old Mandy Louisy of Babonneau.

“The office of the commissioner of police would like to confirm receipt of two letters from the chambers of Mary Francis, one dated September 30, 2013, and the other November 21, 2013,” a police statement said.

“The letter dated September 30 sought an update on the non fatal shooting of Mr. Malvern “Delco” Joseph of Anse La Raye; while the one dated November 21, 2013 requested the names of the officers involved in the shooting death of Mandy Louisy.”

It said the commissioner responded to the letters on November 27.

“On the Malvern “Delco” Joseph matter, the commissioner informed Ms. Francis that the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) had returned the file with appropriate recommendations which would be acted on. He also informed her that she would be notified of the outcome of the matter in due course,” the statement said.

“In relation to the Mandy Louisy matter, the commissioner informed Ms. Francis that he was unable to provide the names of the officers as the file had been submitted to the office of the DPP, who in due course would make a determination on the matter or defer it to an appropriate judicial authority for a decision.

“The commissioner also invited Ms. Francis to make the necessary arrangements with his office should she want to further discuss the matters.”

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  1. What has placed Mary Francis in this pickle, is her strong stance for rights of criminals and her perceived dismissal for those of their victims. Those loved ones left behind, feel a punch to the gut, plus a sucker punch from Mary. It's her duty as a human rights advocate to place government apparatus under a microscope and hold them accountable...but this is only part of her job. She seems to have abandon other parts of her assignment such as ensuring EVERYONE'S entitlement to pursue their dreams in liberty.

    Poor Mary, making official statements about police refusal to grant permit, all the while ignoring the time limits for such events. Sure, many in the police are scum...idiots, however, Mary is appearing to be a bigger idiot with her frequent blunders.

    My advice to Mary is to show some compassion for the victims and have your ducks in a row when making public statements. You just cannot remain mute when the police are constantly setting the records straight...it hurts your credibility.

    *VAT is not a violation rights, neither is sales tax or property tax, marriage tax, or British television licenses...they are what they are!

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    • What is her job? She is a lawyer in private practice. Perhaps she should be employed by the government working in the behalf of all victims and not just the cases that she may have probably carefully selected herself. This makes her look like a politician and
      the lone she-wolf attacking the establishment!

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  2. please people turn away from your wicked ways we need Jesus in our lives. We doubt him we are nothing please give him your hearts while you still have time stop the killings and hating.

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  3. Mary Francis is playing these issues too much in the public forum. The public cannot assist her. However if she is representing families of the victims and feel aggrived she should then seek redress through the judicial system instead of creating any unnecessary animosity between the police and herself.

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  4. Wonder y urll persons are commenting on the recent homicides and speaking out against the criminals....but as soon as the focus is on the police..everyone seems 2 know this and that....criminals have taken over becuz urll protect them and complain secretly..rise up st.lucians

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  5. Etarwoo..your stand isn't much of one..if at all. Let's have this conversation when and trust its just a matter of time before the police and yourself family member etc butt heads. Those guys are tanning the streets more rampant that the illegal murderer(they are legal murderers as explain by Jr Reid). One of them have a crush on your very woman and the playing field changes entirely. If policing us to shortlist a crew of rogues and wipe them.out execution style..then society has failed us..and no need to pat lucrative saleries to the upporr echelon armchair experts. Even a caveman can formulare a strategy mire formidable. With mary Francis on the other hand..I do relish the pressure she's applying..but what say her when heinous gruesome crimes are being committed. Don't the victims of such crimes have rights too..why only she chooses to come out of dormancy when the police acts up etc..she needs to do a better job of represent the intruded upon..a.d not look to place a band aid of a gapping wound

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  6. The commissioner is not hiding anything. It is not procedurally correct to divulge information from a file that is in the office of the Director of public prosecutions. He simply invited Mrs Francis to make arrangements with his office for appropriate discussion of the matter. There is nothing wrong with that.

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  7. Stop treating the Police like Boyscouts,Every move in part of the Police is condemned by the public. Yet crime is increased on the Island.Criminals have to be treated as such.Stop messing with the Police.I say kill the suckers and rid them off our streets.
    Thats my stand.

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      • until the one shot happens to be a love one of yours then you might think differently. and then we wonder why so many murders happening, when our police are shown to be above the law and there is no justice,what do you expect?? i for one like hearing Mary Francis talk and i think there should be more or us demanding an open and more professional police force.. Are their current tactics keeping us safe??

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        • We are becoming the society where the criminals get sympathy. When they shoot and kill someone, we condemn the Police. When a person is killed by a criminal, we still condemn the Police for not doing their job. You can't have it both ways. For the Police, it's damn if you do, damn if you don't. Then there's the minority who says the Police should shoot them in their arm or leg. Horseshit. Get off your high horse, join the Police Force so you can shoot the criminal in their arm or leg.

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          • The big unanswered question is do we know what we want as a society? Perhaps we are still a very mentally underdeveloped and confused people. However we seem to have developed the ability to tear each other down. The so-called intelligent people we call leaders are themselves helpless and cannot help. Our situation is one that is very sad and pathetic.

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      • It will reach ur door step straight to inside ur house, I hope u say the same thing and react the same way. best of luck.

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    • Crime is also crime when if the Police shoots an innocent person without any cause. Being a police officer doesn't mean that you are not a criminal as well. Mary Francis is right in demanding these answers because if we continue to allow those police officers to run amok, they will be killing any and everyone. Sometimes, it is for your very right that Mary Francis is fighting for, because you can never tell at one point you may in Mandy's shoes. So stop with this ignorant statement.

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  8. That's not sounding right,why the lawyer who represent the victim relatives cannot know the officers name to file her case?Every other country in that situation the alleged police officers names are known and they immediately go on administrative leave.WE CANNOT BLAME MS.FRANCIS for her request.I think the public want to know to.Its time we know the officers involved Mr.commissioner.Whats the secret??

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    • So now you want in little St. Lucia, when there is a Police involved shooting, the Officers name must be know and him/her be put on admin leave? You ppl watch to much tv.

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  9. The policy keep denying everyting and that's not a good sign. I will never believe that Ms.Francis is s liar. It's the same thing they did in the case of the march in Micoud. Somehting just don't sound right.

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    • When Mary Francis complained and went to the media the corrupt police officers back dated a letter on November 28. Why did it have to take a media complain for the police to respond. Don't worry COP. it will backfire on u sooner than you think...............

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  10. So he said that he wuld nt say the name of the officers on duty @ the time... Hummm y not? Its our people our business so we can b aware of these kind of people in the Police Force. Smh

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    • is all them secrecy that making it easy to think that there is some sort of cover up... it should be automatic that whenever there is a police shooting that there be a transparent and independent review of what happened. why are some people crying foul when we are only asking that the police be held to a higher level of responsibility than criminals. let the information be out there and let the process be open so if the police is infact justified he/she has nothing to fear and we the citizens can brought to trust our police more. cause if the current tactics were so effective we shouldnt be seeing all the crime issues we are seeing now, our current state demonstrates that our police need more. we should expect the best from them and we should equip and train them to be the best... why should i fear being shot by the police, and if i am shot by the police is it too hard a question to ask why?? and be answered?

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    • Bcuz it's none of your or the next nosy persons business who was on duty. Those who need to know who was on duty know. St. Lucia is too smalll a place for such nosy people. When the name are release, so idiots can go after the person or their family members?

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  11. Good work Mary.

    Put the pressure on them to do what they are suppose to do. This island needs people like you, to put up a fight (with those in-charge,) who refuse to do their job according to the Law.

    Thing is, the minds of most St.Lucians have not developed intellectually, to understand your role and how it even applies to them. And that you're are fighting on everyone's behalf.

    Don't give up, onward we go.

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